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In q2008, when I am in an investment transaction screen there is behavior
with find that is different from what it had been in Q2006.
When I ask "Find" to locate a searched transaction, if I click on what it
found, the find screen disappears. It used to stay visible so I can click
and find the next one. Is there a way I can make it stay visible (like it
used to) so I do not have to click Ctrl-F again and search again to make it
reappear?
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In q2008, when I am in an investment transaction screen there is behavior
with find that is different from what it had been in Q2006.
When I ask "Find" to locate a searched transaction, if I click on what it
found, the find screen disappears. It used to stay visible so I can click
and find the next one. Is there a way I can make it stay visible (like it
used to) so I do not have to click Ctrl-F again and search again to make
it reappear?
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The screen isn't gone, it's just minimized. Look at the bottom left of your
Quicken window for "Search Results" and click on it to get the screen back. |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:36 pm Post subject: Re: Find options |
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"Jeff@unknown.com" <JeffMalka@orthohelp.com> wrote in message
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In q2008, when I am in an investment transaction screen there
is
behavior with find that is different from what it had been in
Q2006.
When I ask "Find" to locate a searched transaction, if I
click on
what it found, the find screen disappears. It used to stay
visible
so I can click and find the next one. Is there a way I can
make it
stay visible (like it used to) so I do not have to click
Ctrl-F
again and search again to make it reappear?
The screen isn't gone, it's just minimized. Look at the bottom
left
of your Quicken window for "Search Results" and click on it to
get
the screen back.
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And the op doesn't have to "restore" the Find dialog in order to
"find" the next match: just press CTRL+SHIFT+F. The Find dialog
will remain minimized, but Quicken will "find" the next matching
transaction.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:22 pm Post subject: Re: Find options |
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Jerry Boyle wrote:
"Jeff@unknown.com" <JeffMalka@orthohelp.com> wrote in message
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In q2008, when I am in an investment transaction screen there is
behavior with find that is different from what it had been in Q2006.
When I ask "Find" to locate a searched transaction, if I click on
what it found, the find screen disappears. It used to stay visible
so I can click and find the next one. Is there a way I can make it
stay visible (like it used to) so I do not have to click Ctrl-F
again and search again to make it reappear?
The screen isn't gone, it's just minimized. Look at the bottom left
of your Quicken window for "Search Results" and click on it to get
the screen back.
And the op doesn't have to "restore" the Find dialog in order to "find"
the next match: just press CTRL+SHIFT+F. The Find dialog will remain
minimized, but Quicken will "find" the next matching transaction.
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An excellent point, but in some cases it may not give the intended result.
CTRL+SHIFT+F will find the next match in the same register. But the search
results may come from different accounts and you'll miss the matches in
other registers.
In addition, if you've used Quicken's global search box (upper left of
Quicken window) I'm not sure CTRL+SHIFT+F will work at all.
In general I think it's probably safer to restore the results window.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:49 pm Post subject: Re: Find options |
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Jerry Boyle wrote:
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"John Pollard" <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in message
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Jerry Boyle wrote:
"Jeff@unknown.com" <JeffMalka@orthohelp.com> wrote in
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In q2008, when I am in an investment transaction screen
there is
behavior with find that is different from what it had been
in
Q2006. When I ask "Find" to locate a searched transaction,
if I click on
what it found, the find screen disappears. It used to stay
visible
so I can click and find the next one. Is there a way I can
make it
stay visible (like it used to) so I do not have to click
Ctrl-F
again and search again to make it reappear?
The screen isn't gone, it's just minimized. Look at the
bottom left
of your Quicken window for "Search Results" and click on it
to get
the screen back.
And the op doesn't have to "restore" the Find dialog in order
to
"find" the next match: just press CTRL+SHIFT+F. The Find
dialog
will remain minimized, but Quicken will "find" the next
matching
transaction.
An excellent point, but in some cases it may not give the
intended
result.
CTRL+SHIFT+F will find the next match in the same register.
But the
search results may come from different accounts and you'll
miss the
matches in other registers.
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That would be a "Find All"; a "Find" always finds in the
"current" register, and doesn't produce "search results". Sorry
I didn't make clear that I believed that the op was doing a
"Find", not a "Find All".
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In addition, if you've used Quicken's global search box (upper
left of
Quicken window) I'm not sure CTRL+SHIFT+F will work at all.
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I agree; if you've done a "Search" (or "Find All"), "Find Next"
has no meaning.
Also, the behavior disliked by the op is not limited to
investment accounts: Find works the same in all account types.
[If you've done a "Find", a "Find Next" will work in the current
register even if you have closed the "Find" dialog box ... and
even if you switch registers, then switch back to the register
involved in the "Find".]
[My global search box is on the right end of my Quicken toolbar.
Q2008 Premier.]
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:41 am Post subject: Re: Find options |
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You are correct. It is minimized.
But I believe in my 2006 version it did not minimize itself automatically,
but instead just remained there for me to search for the next transaction.
Is it possible to make it have that behavior (not become minimized)in Q 08?
I do not see it among the preference options.
Jeff
John Pollard wrote:
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Jerry Boyle wrote:
"John Pollard" <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in message
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Jerry Boyle wrote:
"Jeff@unknown.com" <JeffMalka@orthohelp.com> wrote in
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In q2008, when I am in an investment transaction screen
there is
behavior with find that is different from what it had been
in
Q2006. When I ask "Find" to locate a searched transaction,
if I click on
what it found, the find screen disappears. It used to stay
visible
so I can click and find the next one. Is there a way I can
make it
stay visible (like it used to) so I do not have to click
Ctrl-F
again and search again to make it reappear?
The screen isn't gone, it's just minimized. Look at the
bottom left
of your Quicken window for "Search Results" and click on it
to get
the screen back.
And the op doesn't have to "restore" the Find dialog in order
to
"find" the next match: just press CTRL+SHIFT+F. The Find
dialog
will remain minimized, but Quicken will "find" the next
matching
transaction.
An excellent point, but in some cases it may not give the
intended
result.
CTRL+SHIFT+F will find the next match in the same register.
But the
search results may come from different accounts and you'll
miss the
matches in other registers.
That would be a "Find All"; a "Find" always finds in the
"current" register, and doesn't produce "search results". Sorry
I didn't make clear that I believed that the op was doing a
"Find", not a "Find All".
In addition, if you've used Quicken's global search box (upper
left of
Quicken window) I'm not sure CTRL+SHIFT+F will work at all.
I agree; if you've done a "Search" (or "Find All"), "Find Next"
has no meaning.
Also, the behavior disliked by the op is not limited to
investment accounts: Find works the same in all account types.
[If you've done a "Find", a "Find Next" will work in the current
register even if you have closed the "Find" dialog box ... and
even if you switch registers, then switch back to the register
involved in the "Find".]
[My global search box is on the right end of my Quicken toolbar.
Q2008 Premier.] |
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Jeff@unknown.com wrote:
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You are correct. It is minimized.
But I believe in my 2006 version it did not minimize itself
automatically, but instead just remained there for me to
search for
the next transaction. Is it possible to make it have that
behavior
(not become minimized)in Q 08?
I do not see it among the preference options.
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You're correct: the Find behavior has been changed (I do not
remember just when): the dialog box always minimizes now. There
is no option to alter that.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:21 am Post subject: Re: Find options |
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[snip]
That would be a "Find All"; a "Find" always finds in the "current"
register, and doesn't produce "search results". Sorry I didn't make clear
that I believed that the op was doing a "Find", not a "Find All".
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You're absolutely right, I completely misinterpreted the question. It's only
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:48 am Post subject: Re: Find options |
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With John's advice I can't understand why you'd even want the Find screen
obstructing the view of your register.
And you can absolutely fly from one matching entry to the next by holding
down the CTRL and SHIFT keys while tapping the "F" key.
"Jeff@unknown.com" <JeffMalka@orthohelp.com> wrote in message
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You are correct. It is minimized.
But I believe in my 2006 version it did not minimize itself automatically,
but instead just remained there for me to search for the next transaction.
Is it possible to make it have that behavior (not become minimized)in Q
08?
I do not see it among the preference options.
Jeff
John Pollard wrote:
Jerry Boyle wrote:
"John Pollard" <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:nxpak.233666$yE1.116017@attbi_s21...
Jerry Boyle wrote:
"Jeff@unknown.com" <JeffMalka@orthohelp.com> wrote in
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news:P7aak.11034$F97.7821@newsfe18.lga...
In q2008, when I am in an investment transaction screen
there is
behavior with find that is different from what it had been
in
Q2006. When I ask "Find" to locate a searched transaction,
if I click on
what it found, the find screen disappears. It used to stay
visible
so I can click and find the next one. Is there a way I can
make it
stay visible (like it used to) so I do not have to click
Ctrl-F
again and search again to make it reappear?
The screen isn't gone, it's just minimized. Look at the
bottom left
of your Quicken window for "Search Results" and click on it
to get
the screen back.
And the op doesn't have to "restore" the Find dialog in order
to
"find" the next match: just press CTRL+SHIFT+F. The Find
dialog
will remain minimized, but Quicken will "find" the next
matching
transaction.
An excellent point, but in some cases it may not give the
intended
result.
CTRL+SHIFT+F will find the next match in the same register.
But the
search results may come from different accounts and you'll
miss the
matches in other registers.
That would be a "Find All"; a "Find" always finds in the
"current" register, and doesn't produce "search results". Sorry
I didn't make clear that I believed that the op was doing a
"Find", not a "Find All".
In addition, if you've used Quicken's global search box (upper
left of
Quicken window) I'm not sure CTRL+SHIFT+F will work at all.
I agree; if you've done a "Search" (or "Find All"), "Find Next"
has no meaning.
Also, the behavior disliked by the op is not limited to
investment accounts: Find works the same in all account types.
[If you've done a "Find", a "Find Next" will work in the current
register even if you have closed the "Find" dialog box ... and
even if you switch registers, then switch back to the register
involved in the "Find".]
[My global search box is on the right end of my Quicken toolbar.
Q2008 Premier.]
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:25 am Post subject: Re: Find options |
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[snip]
That would be a "Find All"; a "Find" always finds in the
"current"
register, and doesn't produce "search results". Sorry I
didn't make
clear that I believed that the op was doing a "Find", not a
"Find
All".
You're absolutely right, I completely misinterpreted the
question.
It's only by accident that my answer was almost right
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After re-reading the thread, I'm not so sure you misinterpreted
anything.
In any event, I'm still not really sure exactly what the op was
doing ... but I do think that between the two of us we have
possibly provided some helpful repsonses.
Frankly, I had not spent enough time looking at the ways that
Find/Find All/Search worked until you made your point.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:30 am Post subject: Re: Find options |
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Thanks. I was afraid of that, but will learn to live with it.
Jeff
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Jeff@unknown.com wrote:
You are correct. It is minimized.
But I believe in my 2006 version it did not minimize itself
automatically, but instead just remained there for me to
search for
the next transaction. Is it possible to make it have that
behavior
(not become minimized)in Q 08?
I do not see it among the preference options.
You're correct: the Find behavior has been changed (I do not
remember just when): the dialog box always minimizes now. There
is no option to alter that. |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:32 am Post subject: Re: Find options |
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Because "CTRL and SHIFT keys while tapping the "F" key" takes 3 fingers (2
hands to achieve, while clicking on "Next" just takes the mouse. Question
of preferences.
Also, when I asked the question I did not know about CTRL and SHIFT keys
while tapping the "F" key and tried F3 (which is the usual Windows default
for Next) and that did not work.
Jeff
Jerry Boyle wrote:
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With John's advice I can't understand why you'd even want the Find
screen obstructing the view of your register.
And you can absolutely fly from one matching entry to the next by
holding down the CTRL and SHIFT keys while tapping the "F" key.
"Jeff@unknown.com" <JeffMalka@orthohelp.com> wrote in message
news:gMvak.11540$F97.5764@newsfe18.lga...
You are correct. It is minimized.
But I believe in my 2006 version it did not minimize itself
automatically, but instead just remained there for me to search for
the next transaction. Is it possible to make it have that behavior
(not become minimized)in Q 08?
I do not see it among the preference options.
Jeff
John Pollard wrote:
Jerry Boyle wrote:
"John Pollard" <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in message
news:nxpak.233666$yE1.116017@attbi_s21...
Jerry Boyle wrote:
"Jeff@unknown.com" <JeffMalka@orthohelp.com> wrote in
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news:P7aak.11034$F97.7821@newsfe18.lga...
In q2008, when I am in an investment transaction screen
there is
behavior with find that is different from what it had been
in
Q2006. When I ask "Find" to locate a searched transaction,
if I click on
what it found, the find screen disappears. It used to stay
visible
so I can click and find the next one. Is there a way I can
make it
stay visible (like it used to) so I do not have to click
Ctrl-F
again and search again to make it reappear?
The screen isn't gone, it's just minimized. Look at the
bottom left
of your Quicken window for "Search Results" and click on it
to get
the screen back.
And the op doesn't have to "restore" the Find dialog in order
to
"find" the next match: just press CTRL+SHIFT+F. The Find
dialog
will remain minimized, but Quicken will "find" the next
matching
transaction.
An excellent point, but in some cases it may not give the
intended
result.
CTRL+SHIFT+F will find the next match in the same register.
But the
search results may come from different accounts and you'll
miss the
matches in other registers.
That would be a "Find All"; a "Find" always finds in the
"current" register, and doesn't produce "search results". Sorry
I didn't make clear that I believed that the op was doing a
"Find", not a "Find All".
In addition, if you've used Quicken's global search box (upper
left of
Quicken window) I'm not sure CTRL+SHIFT+F will work at all.
I agree; if you've done a "Search" (or "Find All"), "Find Next"
has no meaning.
Also, the behavior disliked by the op is not limited to
investment accounts: Find works the same in all account types.
[If you've done a "Find", a "Find Next" will work in the current
register even if you have closed the "Find" dialog box ... and
even if you switch registers, then switch back to the register
involved in the "Find".]
[My global search box is on the right end of my Quicken toolbar.
Q2008 Premier.] |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:37 am Post subject: Re: Find options |
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Yes, you both have been helpful.
I just got used to the older way where the Find window stayed visible. True
it sometimes got in the way (depended where you moved it to) but had the
advantage that it only took just one mouse click on "Next" to find the next
one. On my Windows XP system "Find ALL" always crashed Quicken 2006 and I
therefore could not use it. They seem to have finally fixed that bug in Q
2008 and I will therefore "find all" that more usable.
Different strokes for different folks. Allowing the option to chose if the
Find window minimizes or not would have allowed both groups to be happy.
Thanks for the help.
Jeff
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Jerry Boyle wrote:
"John Pollard" <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in message
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[snip]
That would be a "Find All"; a "Find" always finds in the
"current"
register, and doesn't produce "search results". Sorry I
didn't make
clear that I believed that the op was doing a "Find", not a
"Find
All".
You're absolutely right, I completely misinterpreted the
question.
It's only by accident that my answer was almost right :-)
After re-reading the thread, I'm not so sure you misinterpreted
anything.
In any event, I'm still not really sure exactly what the op was
doing ... but I do think that between the two of us we have
possibly provided some helpful repsonses.
Frankly, I had not spent enough time looking at the ways that
Find/Find All/Search worked until you made your point. |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:25 am Post subject: Re: Find options |
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Jeff@unknown.com wrote:
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Because "CTRL and SHIFT keys while tapping the "F" key" takes
3
fingers (2 hands to achieve, while clicking on "Next" just
takes the
mouse.
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I can press CTRL + SHIFT + F easily with just my left hand.
As I think about the "old" way; I think that for some folks,
just "clicking on 'Next'" might be easier, but I think that for
other folks, CTRL+SHIFT+F might be easier. And I think a person
could learn a new way, and find that easier than the old way.
[I'm still not sure we are all talking about the exact same
process, since a strict "Find" doesn't have a "Next" option (you
can click on "Find" again to get the next "match").]
For myself, I have never gravitated to the key combinations for
my personal use; despite having "grown up" using command-line
applications, which sometimes forced me to use them. I don't
think the gui interface actions are "better"; they've just been
easier for me to adapt to - than to try to utilize some
combination of two worlds. I think that's because I
subconsciously try to measure the "consistency" of my approach
.... and wind up disliking switching back and forth between the
gui and the command-line techniques.
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Because "CTRL and SHIFT keys while tapping the "F" key" takes 3 fingers (2
hands to achieve, while clicking on "Next" just takes the mouse. Question
of preferences.
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Doesn't that still leave you with 5 fingers and 2 thumbs to spare? :-)
More seriously, John has already conceded and I also readily concede that we
tend to prefer using the mouse, probably because it takes a lot more time
and mental effort to properly position 3 digits on small keyboard keys than
1 digit on a large mouse button.
I'd report this issue to Intuit - you might get your user option in a future
release.
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